June 6, 2017 at 6:54 pm #11453
From what we are trying to accomplish in this day and age I think it is redundant to teach our young black youth about slavery. Learning about the slave trade it supposed to empower our children but in fact I think it does the total opposite. Learning something of that nature so young, subconsciously puts a cap on our potential. They should take the slave trade out our kids history books and replace it with stories about black successors.
It’s always good to know when you came from so that you know where you are going but until my kids are 18 I don’t want them to know anything about the slave trade much less even celebrate Black History Month..+5June 7, 2017 at 1:06 am #11470
@Lonnie I could understand your point, but I respectfully disagree. I think the total opposite. You cannot leave slavery out from our history. If anything, I think that the youth now-a-days need to be reminded of slavery more, like never before.
Success is the destination, but the journey is all of the road block, the hardship, and hurdles that you got to overcome. We come from the struggle, and it is the agony of the struggle that makes us who we are.
In order to get to where you’re going, you got to know where you come from. Plus if you take slavery out of the history lessons, you give all of these evil white MF a pass. If some of them had it their way still to this day, we would still be slaves.+3June 7, 2017 at 1:13 am #11471
We are great because of slavery. all of our leaders today are bitch-made punks with no heart, blind leaders who value materialism over substance. All of our great leaders, pioneers, and warriors were birthed from out of the womb that slavery created.
Niggas now-a-days couldn’t walk a block in a slave’s shoes. I salute all of the slaves who died and scarified their lives for these ungrateful spoiled ass niggas now-a-days. Killing each other over some bull shit. Hating on each other instead of supporting one another. yeah back then there were a few house Negros, but overall back then our people had a certain tolerance level and endurance level that we lack today.
The reason why other races are more successful is because we get our money and spend it on bull shit. blacks spend over 1 trillion dollars a year, but we are not wise with our spending.+4June 8, 2017 at 6:47 pm #11571Charles WatersParticipant
Agree with you Mask. Our history is our history. There is no way we can forget about slavery+4June 8, 2017 at 6:59 pm #11575
@charles Don’t get the wrong idea bro. I do think we should always know about slavery . but don’t cram it into my kids head so young.+2June 9, 2017 at 12:22 am #11577
“Those who do not learn history are doomed to repeat it.”
The quote is most likely due to George Santayana, and in its original form it read, ‘Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.’
Yes, they need to LEARN about the past so they can appreciate the future. They need to learn the past because people much greater than them have struggled, lived, survived and died to give them the opportunities that they cannot name, cite or truly appreciate. They need to learn in order to gain that sense of SELF that they are always screaming that ‘some other group of people/peoples have taken from them.’ Yet, now that they have the freedom to make change and better themselves they have chosen not to [not all, but some – look at the public education and graduation rates, test scores, and factor in attitudes towards education]. Every time you turn around when something goes wrong, they want to physically fight. Some battles cannot be won by physical confrontation. Most battles are won by those who were able to out think and out maneuver the opposing side.
Old folks use to tell us, ‘free your mind and you ass will follow.’ The same thing still and will always holds true. Without the whole story, you cannot make a sound decision or determination. Don’t fall into mob mentality, that’s what some people want and are expecting … do the unexpected. Knowledge is the real power and it can set you free.+3June 9, 2017 at 2:46 am #11585
@Wanderers: the quote that you started off with, is a quote that really doesn’t make any sense to me. Ive heard it all my life but i think its just another line thrown out there to keep our mind trap.
History is going to repeat its self whether you like it or not. History is repeating itself as we speak. Life is a cycle of the same patterns over and over and over again, only question is: Is history repeating itself for the negative or positive.
Ultimately everybody goal is to have world peace. Recognizing issues fixing them and moving right along to the next for the sake of our future. Just as I told Charles we should all know that our ancesters were once slaves but not at such a young age. Then again its not what we learning its how we are learning it. They are teaching it to our kids in the wrong aspect, leaving out important information.
How long do we suppose to dwell on this negative pass? Forever?+2June 9, 2017 at 2:58 am #11586
The past and the future really don’t matter because it doesn’t exist, The only thing that matters is RIGHT NOW . We are so busy dwelling on the pass and future that we can’t stay focused on the present.+2June 9, 2017 at 7:01 am #11587
Actually, every living soul lives their life in history. The quote just reiterates it and make the most sense. You asked why is it necessary, to understand why they need to know. Because every time most people see or feel some thing that is wrong, some of them will refer to slavery which is a major part of history as people of color, but do not know all the details about it. It is not about being unaware, keeping it from the kids until they are old enough and being angry all the time. It is about awareness and being informed. Other races teach their children from the moment they can comprehend, we did not have that opportunity at one time, now we do. It should not be wasted. This is why some people feel lost, because they want to feel that ancient connection to another land of origin.+2June 12, 2017 at 9:34 am #11670Sky RobertsParticipant
I think that these kids need to know their history, the good and the bad. I dont see how it actually benefits us by depriving our youtb from the truth.+2June 13, 2017 at 2:50 pm #11731
1st off let me say that this is a great debate, and the reason why this is such a great debate is because @ Lonnie although I am on the opposite end of your point, I totally get where your coming from.
My thing is this: knowledge is power, however the one thing that is more powerful than knowledge is self-knowledge. Knowledge is knowing, and self-knowledge is understanding. In order to obtain true wisdom you need a mixture of both knowledge and self-knowledge.
The part where I am agree with you is, yes! I do think that people can be poisoned by history, but that is only when history is being told falsely, or when only one side of the story is being told. there are different versions of history depending on who is narrating the story. I think that instead of not telling our kids about slavery, we should tell them from our perspective. tell about Nat turner, Fredrick Douglass, Harriet Tubman, Martin Luther king Jr, tell them about the Amistad. tell them how we were kings and Queens before slaves, and about how we fought so hard to overcome it.+2June 13, 2017 at 3:30 pm #11735
We all know that history is told from the point of view of the winners. But, the facts always come to light. You cannot and should not shield parts of slavery because it is harsh – no other race does so in telling the stories, so why should we? It is fact and truth, which is why others don’t want to talk about it.
Do any other race NOT talk about their histories [with edits/omissions so that it is comfortable]? I doubt it. You must know what happened if you are expected to truly understand why are still having the issues that divide black people, society and the world at large when it comes to how we see ourselves, how we want to be represented and respected, etc.
People need to know about the Kings & Queens that ruled, how they came to power, lost or was overthrown, how they even sold their enemies or those who challenged their rule into slavery prior to and during their rule to slave auctioneers, etc. You need to know how the European powers carved up the continent of Africa for its natural and mineral resources to make their world & rulers wealthy. You need to learn about the Middle Passage, African Diaspora, European Nations that fought to end Slavery against those people who saw us as property aka CHATTEL, [ you need to know about the white people who were the first abolitionists that saw black people as PEOPLE], and how a new found colony aka the 13 Colonies would become a nation and how we came here – how we endured under the plantation system, the role our ancestors played to make this NATION GREAT.
Encourage them to broaden their horizons to learn about themselves, the world in which we live.
So, you see…a story is not a story without a beginning, a middle and an end. It must be told, then after you have EQUIPPED the children with the much needed knowledge that they need to make an informed decision – it is now up to them to use it appropriately. I will never send them out ill-equipped and ill-advised. The world believes that of them already. Only we know better.
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