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  • #9851
    Mask AppealMask Appeal
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    I had a very interesting and dynamic conversation a few days ago with a friend of mines.

    He is of the mindset that a sin is a sin, no matter what. I am more of the belief that there are different degrees to a sin.. What are your thoughts..?

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    #9855
    Charles WatersCharles Waters
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    Great conversation!! With all do respect Mask, I am on your friend’s side of this debate. Sin is sin, no matter how you slice it. There is no levels or degrees to a sin.

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    #9867
    Lashawn WilliamstonLashawn Williamston
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    I agree @charles, see man can afford levels to things such as disrespect, cheating, lying etc etc but let me tell you about SIN, there is no sin greater than the next my friend and that’s in the most highs eyes.

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    #9871
    Mask AppealMask Appeal
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    You guys both make great points, however I am still inclined to disagree. I agree that a sin falls in the category off a sin. However, my argument is that there are levels of sinning.

    Whenever I hear someone says that sin is sin, I could never truly agree. To me the ideology of that principle falls under the classification of an oxymoron…. It is a sin whenever one does not abide by the law. So that means that if you drive 32 MPH in a 30 MPH speed zone, you are committing a sin. You cannot rationally tell me that with the wisdom of your mind and through the moral compass of your heart, you could equate that sin with the sin of someone like Adolf Hitler, who killed millions of innocent people.

    The sin of a homeless man stealing a sandwich does not measure up to the sins of the white boy in Sandy hook elementary killing 20 innocent kids by shooting each of them over 5-8 times.

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    #9872
    Mask AppealMask Appeal
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    I Believe in God 100% with all of my heart, but my mentality and the moral perspective of my understanding is not shaped by religion.

    If you live in a religious world where you are conformed by religion then you are taught to live by religious principle… many people believe that no sin is greater than the next because that is what religion teaches you… however common sense will tell you that the impactful measurement of one sin doesn’t always reciprocate to the measurement of another sin.

    Life is not that simplistic to say that sin is sin. There are levels to everything. Kings vs peasants. Rich, poor.

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    #9993
    Alex SmartAlex Smart
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    I agree with Maskappeal, the way he broke it down makes plenty of sense. Also, sometimes we sin unknowingly.

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    #10140
    Sofia DovilSofia Dovil
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    This a great debate and an astonishing conversation. @maskappeal I do believe that sin is sin, but rationally the point you made makes sense!

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    #10149
    Tasha JohnsonTasha Johnson
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    I hear you on that mask appeal but I believe sin is sin. I feel that we all sin in different ways but that doesn’t make the sin that was committed any more or any less than the other. That is why it is very important that we ask for forgiveness every day for sins committed knowingly and unknowingly. We are imperfect people living in an imperfect world. Doesn’t matter how the sin was committed, sin is still sin.

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    #10157
    Charles WatersCharles Waters
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    I agree with you @Tasha you make an excellent point. Mask I could understand where your coming from, but whether you see the glass being half empty or half full, anyway you slice it sin is sin.

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    #10254
    Mask AppealMask Appeal
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    @Tasha, I understand where you’re coming from. you make a great point about praying for forgiveness…

    @Charles
    , although the perceived perspective may be different, the reason why the glass can both be seen as half empty or half full is because the substance of what is inside is of equal value.That analogy carries no weight in this debate, because circumstances aren’t always equal in value.

    I agree that sin is sin. However, to clarify my point: I am not saying that a sin is not a sin… because if you commit the very definition of a sin, then no matter what that sin is, if it is defined as a sin, then it is indeed a sin.

    The point that I am trying to make is that there is a moral degrees of understanding, a virtuous levels of comprehension, and consequences to everything, including sin. I respectfully agree to disagree with the notion that no sin is greater than the next.

    a lie is a lie… however the context, the intentions and the impactful effect of that lie can add greater significance to the substance to that lie… A crime is a crime, however: a misdemeanor is different from a felony. a felony is different from man slaughter, and manslaughter is different from 1st degree and premaditated murder.

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    #10255
    Mask AppealMask Appeal
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    If someone breaks into your home and atempts to kill you and your family and you shoot that person while defending your family, is that seen as a sin or is it seen as self-defense ( an eye for an eye).

    if you tell me that you will arrive at my birthday party at 8pm, but you somehow got stuck in traffic and you arrived at 8:30pm. does that make you a liar and a sinner, or were you a mere victim of circumstances that were beyond your control…?

    When David killed Goliath, why do we view it as a heroic triumphant victory and not as a sin?

    When the king of Egypt was moved by Sarah’s Beauty and he asked Abraham, was Sarah his wife, and when Abraham told the king of Egypt that Sarah was his sister, why is the perception of that text viewed by most as an act of wisdom and not as a sin… also, not only did God still keep his Covenant with Abraham, but God punished the Pharaoh for a lie that Araham told.

    I am no religious scholar, nor do I pertent to be. however, the point that I am trying to make is that yes; a sin is a sin. however there is a more intricated, dynamic, and proadoxical level of understanding that exist beyond our comprehenshion. people sometimes get so caught up in the religious principles and aspects of their beliefs as it pertains to religion, and so many people are shackled by a traditional way of thinking,

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    #10256
    Mask AppealMask Appeal
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    When it comes to religious beliefs, why does everything have to be so black and white… why do we place such limitation on the intellectual ideology of God’s understanding… Surely as the heavens is higher than the earth, so is God’s ways higher than our ways… and God’s thoughts higher than our thoughts…

    Who is to say that God’s understanding of our circumstances, our situations, our mistakes, our sins, our ignorance, our intelligence, doesnt play a determining factor in the discernment of God’s Judgement and compassion.

    Just as God is a God of love and peace, he is also a God of war and wrath… and just as God is a God of truth, he is also a God of understanding… Just as how he is a merciful God, he is a Jealous God… and just as how he is a God that will Bless you, he is also, a God that will Punish and curse you.

    When God looks into the heart of two sinners, who is to say that God doesn’t see that the actions of one sinner greatly outweighs the actions of another sinner, based on the convictions of ones heart… I’m just saying

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    #10290
    Black CommunityBlack Community
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    Great discussion!!!
    Everyone is entitled to their own belief.
    The principles of religion can often be substituted with morals.

    And as one who is not religious, but spiritual. Instead of calling it sins, I call them mistakes. The condemnation of labeling innocent and blind mistakes as sin can be misleading.

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    #11143
    Word SmithWord Smith
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    I saw a video the other day of a lion eating a baby Zebra.

    Poor little zebra was minding his own business with his zebra friends and all of a sudden a lion came up and ate him.. Is that a sin or is it just a natural animalistic behavior for the lion to feed.?

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    #11387
    Lolly ElenaLolly Elena
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    Evil has many faces. But evil is still evil.

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