March 16, 2017 at 1:59 pm #7455
I find this video to be very intriguing. I disagree and I agree with some of her points. Share your thoughts
+5March 17, 2017 at 10:47 pm #7501Lisa LorenParticipant
She make some good points, but I think that she is over simplifying the issue. I’m sorry, but it’s not that simply Boo+4March 18, 2017 at 7:34 pm #7524Word SmithParticipant
shit she came in on an even field, but most of us start off our circumstances in the hood on a negative note.
I agree with you Boo! (fine ass Lisa) it’s not that simply+4March 19, 2017 at 12:33 am #7536Wanderers PathParticipant
Josephine is stating what past generations have been saying for a long time – ‘you will live with the decisions that you make.’ After childhood, you cannot blame everything bad that happens to you on someone else, you must take responsibility for your actions and the decisions that you have ultimately made. Our parents, grandparents, great-grandparents, etc, have cried, died, bled, and did what was necessary to get us to this point. When you look at the world and start believing that EVERYTHING is a conspiracy and other people are holding you back you need to [take the mental chains off your mind, raise yourself up]. Yes, it sounds easier said that done, and we know that it isn’t. It is a battle, and nothing worth having in this life is going to come easy to you. No one said, ‘that this life or anything in it is promise to you, or will be given to you.’ There is an old saying, ‘free your mind and your ass will follow.’ Too many people have decided that it is okay to wait for someone else to come along and just give them something without proving that they can earn it. Circumstances are very difficult to overcome, we cannot make light of this. But, at the same time, everyone will not overcome these barriers, nor will they make it over the crime, drugs, abuse, disparity in education, employment, etc. Many people have done just that. But, we have become a world that have gotten lacks with telling our children that you don’t go to school to cuss out the teacher who trying to teach you. You might to learn that there is a presence that is stronger than you and one day you will bow down when you think you just can’t go any further [but you don’t want to go to church, cool – drop on your knees and pray to whatever deity you feel will help you as long as it’s not Beelzebub]. Learn something besides getting into to trouble, rebelling without a good reason or raising hell just because you can. The statistics are there. We consume much more than we produce. Do I like everything that Josephine that said, no. But, needless to say, she did tell the truth. We have lost sight of what must done, too concerned about the superficial instead of what is really important. People need to get their act together.+6March 20, 2017 at 1:26 am #7559
I agree with her overall premise, that we can do better to be more successful as a people. I think that as black people one of our greatest shortcoming is using the excuse that society gives us to fail, as an excuse for us not to strive to succeed. As time pass, we have become lazy in action. Even if you have a legitimate excuse to fail, it doesn’t mean that you have to use that excuse to fail, as an excuse to fail.
I agree with her overall assertions; however, I strongly feel like she nonchalantly and narrow-mindedly simplified something that is sophisticated on a much deeper level.+6March 20, 2017 at 1:32 am #7560
Also, you don’t examine a tree by looking at it’s damaged branches. You must 1st start off by examining the root of the tree… and the root to the reason why black people are so poor begins with slavery. A few hundred years of free labor, picking cotton, and working to build railroads for pennies on the dollar. Making other folks rich, while not collecting a penny.
The point that she left out is that the playing field was never even for 100s of years. If one race gets a couple hundred years’ head start, that will put them at a greater advantage. Yes, we are no longer in hand cuff, but every wound leaves behind a scar. And the scar that slavery left behind was a massive deficit. While our white counterparts had the privilege of passing down their wealth to their grandkids for generations, we never had that privilege.+4March 20, 2017 at 1:33 am #7561
she sounds like she had great parents who set high expectations for her, but that is a rare occasion in most black neighborhoods. We must find structure with limited infrastructure. We must become father, while growing up without not having any father. We must find our way out the maze of the poverty when there is a gun store on every corner, drugs, unhealthy food chains, etc.…
if you want to motive black people to do better then that’s fine, but you can’t just gloss over the systematic challenges that we’ve face for years and act like it doesn’t play a role in our current circumstances.+5March 20, 2017 at 1:54 pm #7570
I agree there are systematic challenges that black people face however, it’s not impossible to overcome them. I agree with what she’s saying as far as the culture is different. Caribbean and African families have different culture and expectation from their children. When you’re expected to bring home A’s and nothing lower than a B no questions asked, it makes you work hard to reach those expectations. Also she’s right as far as a child raised in a single mother household may not strive as far as a 2 parent household. Especially in the hood. Also the education system is not the same as in a suburban area. I know that from experience. Chance the Rapper is doing the right thing by investing money in these children education in Chicago. And we need to expose these children in the hood to better things. It’s not only about being a baller or a rapper. We can show them there’s more to life. Show them they have the opportunity to travel and see there’s more to life than seeing crackheads and fiends, and messed up books, and hate.+6March 20, 2017 at 1:58 pm #7572
My parents became US citizens in the 90s. And they grinded and are still grinding to live well. We started out in the hood, but we didn’t stay there. And because of that exposure to a better school where you take real field trips and are in a diverse crowd, that broadened my mind into wanting more, wanting to know more. And you have teachers that love their job and pour their love onto you. That makes a difference in a child. Most of these parents don’t have time to love their child because they’re too busy trying to make ends meet.+4March 20, 2017 at 2:00 pm #7573
It starts in our community. How we educate our youngins. How we love one another. How we invest in one another. Asians have each others back. They invest in their own. Hispanics invest in their own. Blacks just kill you off when they see you move ahead. We have to change that mindset+6March 20, 2017 at 2:56 pm #7574
I think that we are all in agreement that she makes valid points. I agree we can do better and we need to do better as a people. However, when highlighting that statement, she glosses over the details of the systemic disadvantages that affects us as a people. She is throwing a lot of stats out there, but those stats are not an accurate depiction of the whole truth, because the playing field in not even.
For some of us who are more strong minded, it is easy for us to overcome, however for most of the people in the hood, it is a lot easier said than done. It’s hard not to get infected when you are surrounded by the infection. The negligent systematic structure of our communities baits us into failure.
I’m not making any excuses, I am simply telling you what the excuse is. Yes; we must overcome, but the reason why most of us fail to overcome is because the system is designed to keep us down. Guns, drugs, the prison system, weed charges, liquor, poverty, bullshit ass negative rap music, crooked cops, undercover racist employers in power, lack of programs, lack of educational opportunities. Lack of opportunities period… etc.. etc.. if your gonna tell the story, tell the whole story.+5March 20, 2017 at 3:02 pm #7575
and just to show you the difference between most white people and black people. When Donald Trump was running for president he made a statement that just shows you how profound the difference is between most of us. He stated that he had to work real hard for everything he got. He started from the bottom and made his way up. He said that no one helped him out …………(wait for it)…… and he said that his dad did not really help him out, because all his dad gave him was a million to start.
His bottom is 1million dollars. Image if 50% of all black people had a million dollars to start off with. I applaud her for trying to encourage black people to do better, but the details that she left out is just as, if not more important than the details that she mentioned.
And my last point is: the reason why it is so important for her not to leave those details out, is because what you don’t want to do is to put the blame solely on black people.. and have these white people feeling innocent like they don’t play a role in the reason why so many of us are so poor. With all of the guilty, evil, and wicked shit that they did, and are still doing to some degree. we deserve a good portion of the blame, but there are a lot of white folks with dirty hands.+5April 22, 2017 at 1:26 pm #9041Charles WatersParticipant
I miss this conversation. I see and could understand everyone’s point of view. I had a discussion about this subject with a white guy who is a mutual friend. His take is a bit extreme. My thing is unless you walk a few miles in someone’s shoes do assume that the playing field is even.+4April 26, 2017 at 11:24 am #9202Word SmithParticipant
She talking like she has all of the answers. Its much more complicated than that ma.+1April 26, 2017 at 2:37 pm #9206
I agree @wordsmith when you say it’s a lil more complicated however it’s not impossible to change things. If we weren’t our own worst enemies, we could get somewhere.+1
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